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Here's a TAF for Elizabeth City, NC:
TAF KECG 292350Z 300024 18005KT 6SM -SHRA BR SCT015 BKN030 TEMPO 0103 3SM TSRA BR OVC015CB FM0300 16005KT 5SM SHRA BR OVC025CB FM0800 VRB03KT 3SM BR OVC040 FM1400 18007KT P6SM BKN040 FM2000 15006KT 5SM SHRA BR BKN025CB AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z what does "AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z" mean? -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 Reduce spam. Use Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com ____________________ |
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Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time).
Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E John T wrote: Here's a TAF for Elizabeth City, NC: TAF KECG 292350Z 300024 18005KT 6SM -SHRA BR SCT015 BKN030 TEMPO 0103 3SM TSRA BR OVC015CB FM0300 16005KT 5SM SHRA BR OVC025CB FM0800 VRB03KT 3SM BR OVC040 FM1400 18007KT P6SM BKN040 FM2000 15006KT 5SM SHRA BR BKN025CB AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z what does "AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z" mean? |
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![]() "Michelle P" wrote in message nk.net... Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time). Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E Amazing, isn't it, that after nearly forty years of broadband communications, they still use phrasing(?) from the TELEGRAPH days. And they wonder why pilots often fail to read that crap. John T wrote: Here's a TAF for Elizabeth City, NC: TAF KECG 292350Z 300024 18005KT 6SM -SHRA BR SCT015 BKN030 TEMPO 0103 3SM TSRA BR OVC015CB FM0300 16005KT 5SM SHRA BR OVC025CB FM0800 VRB03KT 3SM BR OVC040 FM1400 18007KT P6SM BKN040 FM2000 15006KT 5SM SHRA BR BKN025CB AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z what does "AMD NOT SKCED AFT 02Z" mean? |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote: "Michelle P" wrote in message nk.net... Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time). Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E Amazing, isn't it, that after nearly forty years of broadband communications, they still use phrasing(?) from the TELEGRAPH days. And they wonder why pilots often fail to read that crap. What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? I can't stand wading through an undecoded briefing where I have to pick through "Wind" and "Temperature" and all of that unnecessary verbal nonsense in order to get the information. If you learn to read undecoded METARs/TAFs, it's pretty easy to pick out a lot of information very quickly. JKG |
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![]() "Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message ... In article , "Matt Barrow" wrote: "Michelle P" wrote in message nk.net... Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time). Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E Amazing, isn't it, that after nearly forty years of broadband communications, they still use phrasing(?) from the TELEGRAPH days. And they wonder why pilots often fail to read that crap. What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? I can't stand wading through an undecoded briefing where I have to pick through "Wind" and "Temperature" and all of that unnecessary verbal nonsense in order to get the information. If you learn to read undecoded METARs/TAFs, it's pretty easy to pick out a lot of information very quickly. Amazing, isn't it, that after nearly forty years of broadband communications, they still use phrasing(?) from the TELEGRAPH days. |
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"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
... In article , "Matt Barrow" wrote: "Michelle P" wrote in message nk.net... Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time). Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E Amazing, isn't it, that after nearly forty years of broadband communications, they still use phrasing(?) from the TELEGRAPH days. And they wonder why pilots often fail to read that crap. What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? Why not? I can't stand wading through an undecoded briefing where I have to pick through "Wind" and "Temperature" and all of that unnecessary verbal nonsense in order to get the information. Wind and Temp data is nonsense? If you learn to read undecoded METARs/TAFs, it's pretty easy to pick out a lot of information very quickly. Sounds rather like the "If you can't run a computer from the command line, you shouldn't be on it!" crowd. That was a popular refrain from the Unix gang. I wonder how many of those are on the outs right now, with the IT industry going south? "Requirements? We don't do requirements; you'll get it the way we want to do it". Automatic transmissions? In my industry it's pneumatic nailers and factory built components. We build houses using 40% of the manhours and have better fit, finish and materials than the "Big Boys". -- Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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![]() Jonathan Goodish wrote: What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? Obviously, plain-language. Where's the compelling reason to make trying to read them a goat-rope? All the encoded BS is a relic of a prior era, driven by the technology of that era, and now, well overtaken by events and several generations of newer technology that make it embarrassingly obsolete. Your tax dollars at work. |
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![]() CriticalMass wrote: Jonathan Goodish wrote: What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? Obviously, plain-language. Where's the compelling reason to make trying to read them a goat-rope? All the encoded BS is a relic of a prior era, driven by the technology of that era, and now, well overtaken by events and several generations of newer technology that make it embarrassingly obsolete. Not entirely. I get weather data on my cell phone which doesn't have a ton of screen space and can get an entire TAF cycle in about two screens which is quite convenient. The thing I have the most trouble with is converting from zulu to local time. Flying a plane I can handle but simple arithmetic seems to elude me. -cwk. |
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CriticalMass wrote: Jonathan Goodish wrote: What is the alternative? Undecoded METARs/TAFs? Obviously, plain-language. Where's the compelling reason to make trying to read them a goat-rope? All the encoded BS is a relic of a prior era, driven by the technology of that era, and now, well overtaken by events and several generations of newer technology that make it embarrassingly obsolete. The problem with plain language (undecoded) is that I want the data, not excess verbiage. I can look at a METAR and TAF and get ONLY the data, which is a heck of a lot quicker than reading through some verbose plain language translation. CSC DUATs will provide plain language translations if you want, and it seems to do a good job. Lots of wasted space for a little bit of information, in my opinion. JKG |
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Michelle P wrote:
Amendment not scheduled after 02Z (closing time). Michelle Ref Section 4 Page 3 AC00-45E Thanks! -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 Reduce spam. Use Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com ____________________ |
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