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There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot
IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves. My question is for these people ... What sort of planes are you flying? |
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Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise.
11,500lb 1552hp Preasurized Radar Known Ice 300kts 31,000' Mike MU-2 "Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message ... There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves. My question is for these people ... What sort of planes are you flying? |
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Nice plane!! If envy is indeed one the 7 deadly sins, then damn me!!
OBTW, what's the fuel burn at cruise, and range of your MU2?? "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise. 11,500lb 1552hp Preasurized Radar Known Ice 300kts 31,000' Mike MU-2 "Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message ... There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves. My question is for these people ... What sort of planes are you flying? |
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Thanks. Range, speed and fuel burn vary a lot with altitude and
temperature, but typical fuel burn at cruise in the mid 20s is 85GPH. No wind range with IFR reserves is listed as 1395nm but this is unachievable in practice. A more realistic range number is 1200nm. Coast to coast requires one fuel stop going east and two (rarely three) going westbound. The original poster said that he wanted to be able to get places on a schedule. What that requires depends on where you are and where you are going, but to me it requires radar, known ice, high altitude capability and range. Mike MU-2 "Windecks" wrote in message om... Nice plane!! If envy is indeed one the 7 deadly sins, then damn me!! OBTW, what's the fuel burn at cruise, and range of your MU2?? "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise. 11,500lb 1552hp Preasurized Radar Known Ice 300kts 31,000' Mike MU-2 "Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message ... There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves. My question is for these people ... What sort of planes are you flying? |
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The original poster said that he wanted to be able to get places on a
schedule. What that requires depends on where you are and where you are going, but to me it requires radar, known ice, high altitude capability and range. I think there are two issues he suitability for single-pilot use and capability to tackle weather. The two sorta work against one another - probably the easiest to fly plane IFR is something like an 182, but you're not going to be tackling much weather. Conversely, a plane like Mike's MU-2 is very capable, but you've got to ante up to very high proficiency standards. (Mike, are your insurers Ok with you flying alone in clouds? I've heard they're starting to get very sticky about turbines twins being flown single-pilot.) In reality, we don't choose planes that are good for single-pilot IFR - we choose planes that suit our mission (and constraints, particularly costs) and then ante up what it takes to fly them safely IFR. For me, a non-professional IFR pilot who gets maybe 5 hours a year actual in my non-iced heavy single, this means scrubbing a lot of flights. I think that is the big fallacy with new instrument pilots - that they can truly fly in any weather and can meet hard schedule committments. It takes a lot of airplane and a lot of training/experience to be able to consistently tackle IFR weather with reasonable risk. I'd guess that on any given mission, I can make it VFR 80% of the time. IFR cuts my scrubs in half so I can go 890% of the time, but I still have a 10% scrub rate even with the the ticket. Ice is the big issue for me. In reality, I use IFR more for flying security and convenience rather that tackling weather. It's just a lot easier to file IFR and follow ATC's instructions rather than keeping track of everything yourself, especially with all the airspace restrictions these days. - Mark |
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"markjen" wrote:
I think that is the big fallacy with new instrument pilots - that they can truly fly in any weather and can meet hard schedule committments. It takes a lot of airplane and a lot of training/experience to be able to consistently tackle IFR weather with reasonable risk. I'd guess that on any given mission, I can make it VFR 80% of the time. IFR cuts my scrubs in half so I can go 890% [I assume you meant 90%?] of the time There's a lot of truth in that. I've completed a lot of trips VFR that I wouldn't have dared taken if I didn't have the IFR option in my pocket. That means both getting a pop-up if conditions change in flight, and the ability to file IFR the next day or a few days later for a return flight. |
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My insurance doesn't require anything except annual recurrent training at
one of two places. Other than that requirement, there are no restrictions. Mike MU-2 "markjen" wrote in message news:Et4zb.200680$Dw6.744902@attbi_s02... The original poster said that he wanted to be able to get places on a schedule. What that requires depends on where you are and where you are going, but to me it requires radar, known ice, high altitude capability and range. I think there are two issues he suitability for single-pilot use and capability to tackle weather. The two sorta work against one another - probably the easiest to fly plane IFR is something like an 182, but you're not going to be tackling much weather. Conversely, a plane like Mike's MU-2 is very capable, but you've got to ante up to very high proficiency standards. (Mike, are your insurers Ok with you flying alone in clouds? I've heard they're starting to get very sticky about turbines twins being flown single-pilot.) In reality, we don't choose planes that are good for single-pilot IFR - we choose planes that suit our mission (and constraints, particularly costs) and then ante up what it takes to fly them safely IFR. For me, a non-professional IFR pilot who gets maybe 5 hours a year actual in my non-iced heavy single, this means scrubbing a lot of flights. I think that is the big fallacy with new instrument pilots - that they can truly fly in any weather and can meet hard schedule committments. It takes a lot of airplane and a lot of training/experience to be able to consistently tackle IFR weather with reasonable risk. I'd guess that on any given mission, I can make it VFR 80% of the time. IFR cuts my scrubs in half so I can go 890% of the time, but I still have a 10% scrub rate even with the the ticket. Ice is the big issue for me. In reality, I use IFR more for flying security and convenience rather that tackling weather. It's just a lot easier to file IFR and follow ATC's instructions rather than keeping track of everything yourself, especially with all the airspace restrictions these days. - Mark |
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![]() Citation CJ1!! It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST. |
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Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a Labrador it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest headwind if its warm. The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about 350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts. I forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet cycled out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would cycle out well before overhaul. Piaggio and Premier are much better. Mike MU-2 "Tom S." wrote in message ... Citation CJ1!! It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST. |
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Piaggio Avanti P180 -
41,000 Feet 390 knots high speed Cruise - but normally about 360-365 Known Ice Weather radar - Pressurized to 4,000 feet w/ 9 psi max differential 1700 + nm Range -- Can land on a 2300 foot runway if you're good ![]() Single Pilot Certified Paul P "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message hlink.net... Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise. 11,500lb 1552hp Preasurized Radar Known Ice 300kts 31,000' Mike MU-2 "Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message ... There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves. My question is for these people ... What sort of planes are you flying? |
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