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Old July 21st 04, 02:49 AM
Mike Schumann
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I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?

Mike Schumann

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Dan,

In Europe, the Diesel is a total winner.

As for the other things, IMHO it really depends on the mission. I see
the DA40 showing up at more and more FBOs in the US. I can't see any
negatives comparing them to a new 172 - and a lot of positives. IMHO, a
creating a new 172/Archer makes a lot of sense, since both leave a lot
to be desired - speed among them. Even if you only think of the Star as
a 172 that's 20 knots faster, you stilll have a winner. And that
doesn't take into account how well it flies and the great visibility.

The amazing thing to me is that the SR20, similarly equipped, is just
10 or 15k more expensive. IMHO, you get a whole lot more airplane for
that money. But then, for Europe, they don't have the right engine for
the SR20 - and according to Cirrus, none is in sight, either.

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Old July 21st 04, 04:14 AM
C J Campbell
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
nk.net...
I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


I believe it is 100%.


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Old July 21st 04, 04:22 AM
Mike Schumann
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Somehow, looking at the Thiert web site, it doesn't look like they are
selling very many engines yet.

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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
nk.net...
I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


I believe it is 100%.




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Old July 21st 04, 08:37 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Mike,

it doesn't look like they are
selling very many engines yet.


Define "very many" in the GA market.

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Old July 21st 04, 08:37 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Mike,

I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


It is not offered in the US. Simple as that.

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Old July 21st 04, 03:56 PM
C J Campbell
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Mike,

I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


It is not offered in the US. Simple as that.


It is not certified here, either.


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Old July 21st 04, 04:17 PM
Thomas Borchert
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C,

It is not offered in the US. Simple as that.


It is not certified here, either.


Don't be a smarta.. Why certify something that isn't sold?

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Old July 22nd 04, 04:27 AM
Mike Schumann
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It is really frustrating, as a consumer, to see cars and planes sold abroad
with the latest technology, getting 30% better fuel economy, and the same
products are not available here, because the manufacturers have the attitude
that US consumers don't care about fuel efficiency.

When you look at the increased range and payload possible with the DA40 with
a diesel engine, due to its significantly lower fuel consumption, you'd be
crazy to buy anything but a diesel, unless there are issues with the newness
of the engine.

Mike Schumann

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Mike,

I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


It is not offered in the US. Simple as that.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)



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Old July 22nd 04, 05:32 AM
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When you look at the increased range and payload possible with the DA40
with
a diesel engine, due to its significantly lower fuel consumption, you'd be
crazy to buy anything but a diesel, unless there are issues with the

newness
of the engine.


Exactly, the problem. In addition , the American market has been less
forgiving and experimental than the european market. I don't know why. But
that seems to be the belief of the manufacturers.

The margins are low, and the risks are high, and so less chances will be
taken here than over there.



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Old July 22nd 04, 08:56 AM
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Mike,

because the manufacturers have the attitude
that US consumers don't care about fuel efficiency.


Is it the attitude of the manufacturers or that of the majority of the
consumers?

unless there are issues with the newness
of the engine.


There are issues - as with anything new. Nothing deal-breaking, though, AFAIK.

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