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"Chip Jones" wrote in message =
k.net... I'm hoping one or more of you instrument pilots (or controllers) could = help me with an IAP question. The airport involved is RKW, which is = Rockwood, Tennessee. The IAP in question is the VOR/DME RWY 22 into Rockwood. = If you have the plate or know the procedure, I hope you can help me out. =20 RKW airport lies about 2 miles west of the common Atlanta (ZTL) ARTCC/Knoxville (TYS) Tracon boundary. Center owns the airport, but = because of the close proximity to TYS airspace, Center has to coordinate with = Tracon for clearances in and out of RKW unless the aircraft is arriving from = the east. TYS coordinates with Center for RKW arrivals from the east, and = TYS issues the approach clearance, as most of the IAP lies within TYS = airspace. =20 Here's the situation. I'm instructing a newbie on the radar. We're = working combined sectors and we're busy working the main bang out of Atlanta = on our other freq. We have a RKW arrival from the east, an Army UH60/G. = Route of flight is Asheville NC direct RKW, a 30 minute delay at RKW, and = then on to Fort Campbell KY. The aircraft whopping along at 6,000 and "PLA = RKW" is in remarks on his flightplan. There is a large thunderstorm sweeping = south over the Knoxville airport and the TYS controllers are busy holding = their own arrivals for the storm to pass. To ease their workload, TYS calls = my trainee and begs him to work the approach into RKW. The trainee = agrees (good training experience). Good experience for me too, as I don't = get to work east arrivals into this airport very often. =20 The aircraft checks on at 6000 with a request. We issue the CSV = altimeter and take the request. The request is "Center, Army 569 would like to = shoot the full VOR/DME 22 into Rockwood, followed by a missed approach and a = ten minute hold at MINES and then on to Campbell." My guy and I do a = quick huddle as we dig out the chart. =20 Normally I would have keyed the mic and asked the pilot what he was = going to do when he asked for the "full" approach, but I sit behind my = trainee when he works the radio. I can over-ride him, but he's a Yank from Pennsylvania and I'm from the Low Country of SC. Our accents are as different as night and day, and the last thing I wanted to do was let = all of the Delta pilots on our other freq know they were dealing with a = trainee. Like dogs, they work in packs, smell fear and love to shred new meat. = I try to stay off the radio when I train. =20 The MIA for the area is 5000. The trainee clears the aircraft to = "Descend and Maintain 5000, cleared direct MINES, I have your request for the approach". This is followed a minute later with: =20 "Army 569, twelve miles northeast of Rockwood, cross MINES at 5000 = inbound, cleared VOR/DME Runway 22 approach Rockwood, report established on the approach." =20 Look at the plate. The aircraft is approaching MINES on about a 270 heading. He's maybe ten miles due east from MINES when he checks on = with his request for the approach and we clear him -MINES. I am expecting = the aircraft to proceed to MINES at 5000, turn left to intercept the HCH = 060R inbound, and fly down the approach on a 240 track towards the airport, = doing a drive and dive. In the event, the aircraft proceeds to MINES, turns = left all the way around to a 060 heading, and flies one turn in the = published holding pattern at MINES. Somewhere in the trip around the pattern, = he calls established on the approach. We put him on the CTAF, he does = his thing, later misses as planned and life goes on. =20 My question concerns the course reversal at MINES. If you were flying = this approach from due east of MINES, "cleared approach", what do you do at = MINES to get on the approach course? =20 Thanks, =20 Chip, ZTL =20 Chip, I set up that scenario in my CNX80 simulator, to see what IT would = do. Indeed, the simulator wants to go once around the holding pattern at = MINES, unless I select "Vector to Final", in which case it foregoes the hold. The same is true even if I set up inbound to MINES on a 240 track. Since the UH60 pilot asked for the "full" approach, not vectors, I'd = assume either that his GPS unit wanted to behave the same as the CNX80, or else he just needed to log some holding-proficiency time. Maybe = both. ---JRC--- |
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