quick question -

Hi,

In article ,
Stealth wrote:
the acronym is so intuitive that I'm sure you wont need me to
elaborate.

sarcasm off

ersa is the 'enroute supplement australia' it is a large book of the
details of commercially used airfields in australia.

it is pretty useless for private flying beause of the subset of
airfields featured.

Ah, ok. I tend to consult a VFR flight guide first, and then if they have a
variable pattern give the airfield a call.

your windsocks must be made from concrete because we actually use ours
to determine the pattern. (hint: land into wind)

Err...yes. But how does a windsock tell you if it's a left or right hand
circuit?

Andy

On Jul 15, 11:46 am, Clark wrote:

Ehhh, he's tawkin' 'bout 'stralia. There's not much congestion or even
topography so they're all standard lefthand patterns,

'cept when they're not...

Depends.
Any pilot on a cross country into an unknown airfield will (or should)
be carrying an AIP
No matter where they are in the world.
For the circuit pattern look at the square outside the Tower
That's why they teach circuit rejoins.
BTW
Do you know what to do to work in a circuit nonaudio?
Do they still teach that ?

square... outside the tower?
that must be a euro thing..
and what if there is no tower?

in the USofA, it's a segmented circle, with either a windsock or wind
tetrahedron in the middle of it

"george" wrote in message
...
On Jul 15, 11:46 am, Clark wrote:

Ehhh, he's tawkin' 'bout 'stralia. There's not much congestion or even
topography so they're all standard lefthand patterns,

'cept when they're not...

Depends.
Any pilot on a cross country into an unknown airfield will (or should)
be carrying an AIP
No matter where they are in the world.
For the circuit pattern look at the square outside the Tower
That's why they teach circuit rejoins.
BTW
Do you know what to do to work in a circuit nonaudio?
Do they still teach that ?

square... outside the tower?
that must be a euro thing..

It is an ICAO thing, I believe. These:

http://tinyurl.com/6knnaw

are the German regulations on marking aerodromes with VFR traffic, and they
claim to be in accordance with ICAO annex 14, volume I. The landing-T is
shown on page 3.

and what if there is no tower?

There is a signal field between the operations building and the runway, even
if there is no tower.

Kai Rode wrote in
:

square... outside the tower?
that must be a euro thing..

It is an ICAO thing, I believe. These:

http://tinyurl.com/6knnaw

are the German regulations on marking aerodromes with VFR traffic, and
they claim to be in accordance with ICAO annex 14, volume I. The
landing-T is shown on page 3.

and what if there is no tower?

There is a signal field between the operations building and the
runway, even if there is no tower.


So the airport MUST have an operations building?

WOW!

Kai Rode wrote in
:

There is a signal field between the operations building and the
runway, even if there is no tower.


So the airport MUST have an operations building?

Yes it does. Even if it's just a beach chair as at this airfield:

http://tinyurl.com/5m4js4

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...20050822072716


That's what the regulations say..I didn't write them.

Kai Rode wrote in
:

Kai Rode wrote in
m:

There is a signal field between the operations building and the
runway, even if there is no tower.


So the airport MUST have an operations building?

Yes it does. Even if it's just a beach chair as at this airfield:

http://tinyurl.com/5m4js4

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...Fehmarn-Neujel
lingsdorf.jpg&filetimestamp=20050822072716


That's what the regulations say..I didn't write them.

Intersting. Does someone have to be at the "operations building" or, in
this case, in the lawn chair?

I guess the brothel just before the start of RWY 18 at Lida Junction, NV
(0L4) is an operations building by regulation!

Would the hangar at Jackass Aeropark in Lathrop Wells, NV (U75) also count
as an operations building? Or does the general store, gas station, and
brothel, all about 1 mile away, constitute the operations building?

I have never seen the designated "signal square" on any US airfield.. even
US ICAO approved airfields..

http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/AIM_Basic_2-14-08.pdf

do a word search on "segmented circle"

B


"Kai Rode" wrote in message
...
square... outside the tower?
that must be a euro thing..

It is an ICAO thing, I believe. These:

http://tinyurl.com/6knnaw

are the German regulations on marking aerodromes with VFR traffic, and
they
claim to be in accordance with ICAO annex 14, volume I. The landing-T is
shown on page 3.

and what if there is no tower?

There is a signal field between the operations building and the runway,
even
if there is no tower.

"BT" wrote in
:

I have never seen the designated "signal square" on any US airfield..
even US ICAO approved airfields..

It's a brit thing.



Bertie

On Jul 15, 2:34 pm, Clark wrote:

You really mean sans-radio now don't you, sport.

Not being American no I don't mean that

Do they still teach that ?

Still need to learn it now do you? Go pay the instructor and get the help
you need...

My question was and still is
Do they still teach pilots how to fly nonaudio circuits ?
I use
d to fly DH82s and PA18s in the 60s, aircraft not known for their
copious radio equipment.