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Old July 20th 08, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Jul 18, 1:22*pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
A while back I posted that I had used Monokote trim to cover some of
the larger holes in my Speed Astir fuselage. *They did a nice neat job
of covering the holes, but here's the follow-up. *I removed one a
couple weeks ago that had been in place for a couple months. *The
mylar pulled off cleanly, but left the adhesive behind, and boy howdy
was that stuff difficult to remove! *Perhaps with the RIGHT solvent,
it wouldn't be a pain, but the 3M General Adhesive Cleaner doesn't do
much but make it gooey. *If anybody knows what sort of solvent would
work better on the Monokote trim adhesive, please chime in, cause I'm
sure the 'racing checker' patches made my glider faster!



Oh and I forgot. "Goo Gone" citrus based cleaner will probably knock
this straight off. Maybe followed by a clean wipe of 3M cleaner,
acetone or toluene, etc. I've used Goo Gone to take off residue of
misapplied stripes similar to Monokote.

Darryl
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Old July 20th 08, 05:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Craig[_2_]
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Jul 19, 8:36 pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Jul 18, 1:22 pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:

A while back I posted that I had used Monokote trim to cover some of
the larger holes in my Speed Astir fuselage. They did a nice neat job
of covering the holes, but here's the follow-up. I removed one a
couple weeks ago that had been in place for a couple months. The
mylar pulled off cleanly, but left the adhesive behind, and boy howdy
was that stuff difficult to remove! Perhaps with the RIGHT solvent,
it wouldn't be a pain, but the 3M General Adhesive Cleaner doesn't do
much but make it gooey. If anybody knows what sort of solvent would
work better on the Monokote trim adhesive, please chime in, cause I'm
sure the 'racing checker' patches made my glider faster!


Oh and I forgot. "Goo Gone" citrus based cleaner will probably knock
this straight off. Maybe followed by a clean wipe of 3M cleaner,
acetone or toluene, etc. I've used Goo Gone to take off residue of
misapplied stripes similar to Monokote.

Darryl


xylene (xylol) is very effective at removing adhesive goo when all
else fails. It's usually available in pints at the local big box
hardware store.

Craig
  #3  
Old July 20th 08, 12:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_3_]
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:31:12 -0700, Craig wrote:

On Jul 19, 8:36 pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Jul 18, 1:22 pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:

A while back I posted that I had used Monokote trim to cover some of
the larger holes in my Speed Astir fuselage. They did a nice neat job
of covering the holes, but here's the follow-up. I removed one a
couple weeks ago that had been in place for a couple months. The
mylar pulled off cleanly, but left the adhesive behind, and boy howdy
was that stuff difficult to remove! Perhaps with the RIGHT solvent,
it wouldn't be a pain, but the 3M General Adhesive Cleaner doesn't do
much but make it gooey. If anybody knows what sort of solvent would
work better on the Monokote trim adhesive, please chime in, cause I'm
sure the 'racing checker' patches made my glider faster!


Oh and I forgot. "Goo Gone" citrus based cleaner will probably knock
this straight off. Maybe followed by a clean wipe of 3M cleaner,
acetone or toluene, etc. I've used Goo Gone to take off residue of
misapplied stripes similar to Monokote.

Darryl


xylene (xylol) is very effective at removing adhesive goo when all
else fails. It's usually available in pints at the local big box
hardware store.

Hexane is good for contact cement removal, assuming its not been banned
as a VOC. It was the best of a fairly unimpressive set of solvents when I
needed to clean double sided tape off some mylar gap seal.


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Old July 20th 08, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Uncle Fuzzy
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Jul 20, 4:56*am, Martin Gregorie
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:31:12 -0700, Craig wrote:
On Jul 19, 8:36 pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Jul 18, 1:22 pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:


A while back I posted that I had used Monokote trim to cover some of
the larger holes in my Speed Astir fuselage. *They did a nice neat job
of covering the holes, but here's the follow-up. *I removed one a
couple weeks ago that had been in place for a couple months. *The
mylar pulled off cleanly, but left the adhesive behind, and boy howdy
was that stuff difficult to remove! *Perhaps with the RIGHT solvent,
it wouldn't be a pain, but the 3M General Adhesive Cleaner doesn't do
much but make it gooey. *If anybody knows what sort of solvent would
work better on the Monokote trim adhesive, please chime in, cause I'm
sure the 'racing checker' patches made my glider faster!


Oh and I forgot. "Goo Gone" citrus based cleaner will probably knock
this straight off. Maybe followed by a clean wipe of 3M cleaner,
acetone or toluene, etc. I've used Goo Gone to take off residue of
misapplied stripes similar to Monokote.


Darryl


xylene (xylol) is very effective at removing adhesive goo when all
else fails. *It's usually available in pints at the local big box
hardware store.


Hexane is good for contact cement removal, assuming its not been banned
as a VOC. It was the best of a fairly unimpressive set of solvents when I
needed to clean double sided tape off some mylar gap seal.

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Pretty sure it's 'unobtainium' now. I could be mis-remembering, but I
think I used Hexane as an additive to fuel for my compression ignition
engines.
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Old July 22nd 08, 11:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_3_]
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:11:33 -0700, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:


Pretty sure it's 'unobtainium' now. I could be mis-remembering, but I
think I used Hexane as an additive to fuel for my compression ignition
engines.

That would have been ether, assuming you mean model engines: 40% ether,
20% castor oil, 39% kerosene, 1% amyl nitrate runs pretty well.

Outside a lab I've only seen hexane sold as thinners for Evostik contact
cement.


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Old July 22nd 08, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default Monokote trim patches for covering holes - not recommended

On Jul 19, 9:31*pm, Craig wrote:
On Jul 19, 8:36 pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:



On Jul 18, 1:22 pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:


A while back I posted that I had used Monokote trim to cover some of
the larger holes in my Speed Astir fuselage. *They did a nice neat job
of covering the holes, but here's the follow-up. *I removed one a
couple weeks ago that had been in place for a couple months. *The
mylar pulled off cleanly, but left the adhesive behind, and boy howdy
was that stuff difficult to remove! *Perhaps with the RIGHT solvent,
it wouldn't be a pain, but the 3M General Adhesive Cleaner doesn't do
much but make it gooey. *If anybody knows what sort of solvent would
work better on the Monokote trim adhesive, please chime in, cause I'm
sure the 'racing checker' patches made my glider faster!


Oh and I forgot. "Goo Gone" citrus based cleaner will probably knock
this straight off. Maybe followed by a clean wipe of 3M cleaner,
acetone or toluene, etc. I've used Goo Gone to take off residue of
misapplied stripes similar to Monokote.


Darryl


xylene (xylol) is very effective at removing adhesive goo when all
else fails. *It's usually available in pints at the local big box
hardware store.

Craig


Xylene is one of the main ingredient in the 3M General Purpose
Adhesive Cleaner, and yes it does work well for many things. I think
the 3M blend is pretty handy for removing stuff (including wing tape
residue). However the original poster reported it did not work in
this case. From the material safety data sheet the main ingredients in
3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner are

XYLENE 30 - 60%
NONANE 10 - 40%
OCTANES 10 - 30%
ETHYLBENZENE 5 - 20%

I've been able to purchase this even in California, e.g. at my local
Orchard Supply Hardware store.

Darryl

 




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