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Old September 5th 08, 08:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Thomas Borchert
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Default Mode S transponder display to ATC?

Peter,

Doesn't the system process the flightid field?


Some do. In Europe, more and more do.

Or isn't that
transmitted?


It certainly is.

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Old September 7th 08, 08:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default Mode S transponder display to ATC?

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Peter,


Doesn't the system process the flightid field?



Some do. In Europe, more and more do.


Or isn't that
transmitted?



It certainly is.


Not in the U.S.
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Old September 7th 08, 09:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Thomas Borchert
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Sam,

Not in the U.S.


Source? A source that shows a Garmin GTX330 does not transmit flight ID
data in the US would suffice.

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Old September 7th 08, 07:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mike[_22_]
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
Sam,

Not in the U.S.


Source? A source that shows a Garmin GTX330 does not transmit flight ID
data in the US would suffice.


If a tree falls in the woods, but nobody is there to hear it, does it make a
sound?

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Old September 8th 08, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default Mode S transponder display to ATC?

Mike wrote:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Sam,

Not in the U.S.


Source? A source that shows a Garmin GTX330 does not transmit flight ID
data in the US would suffice.



If a tree falls in the woods, but nobody is there to hear it, does it
make a sound?


Good way to put it.

Plus, in the high end gear, the Mode S message data can be implemented
in stages.
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Old September 8th 08, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mike[_22_]
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Sam,

Not in the U.S.


Source? A source that shows a Garmin GTX330 does not transmit flight ID
data in the US would suffice.



If a tree falls in the woods, but nobody is there to hear it, does it
make a sound?


Good way to put it.

Plus, in the high end gear, the Mode S message data can be implemented in
stages.


Some of the ModeS features will never be implemented and the ModeS Extended
Squitter will mainly be used by the airlines. For GA, I don't think you're
going to see much in the way of new ModeS features as the ADS-B UATs will be
the preferred new technology path for data link.

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Old September 8th 08, 06:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jay Maynard
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Default Mode S transponder display to ATC?

On 2008-09-08, Peter wrote:
Isn't the USA going to implement ADS-B using the 1090MHz Extended
Squitter - such as can be done with a GTX330?

AIUI, most of the rest of the world (those bits that are planning
ADS-B) are looking to do it that way.


1090ES is one of two US ADS-B standards; the other is a standalone
transmitter. I was unaware the GTX330 would do 1090ES. If it does, I'm going
to be very happy indeed, as I'd been thinking the extra $2500 or so I spent
on mine was going to be largely wasted. The common wisdom here is that
1090ES is going to be mostly used by the big iron.
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Old September 8th 08, 07:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jon
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Default Mode S transponder display to ATC?

On Sep 8, 12:40*pm, Peter wrote:
"Mike" wrote
[...] as the ADS-B UATs will be
the preferred new technology path for data link.


Isn't the USA going to implement ADS-B using the 1090MHz [...]


Both (1090 and UAT).

Regards,
Jon
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Old September 9th 08, 02:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mike[_22_]
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"Peter" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote

Some of the ModeS features will never be implemented and the ModeS
Extended
Squitter will mainly be used by the airlines. For GA, I don't think
you're
going to see much in the way of new ModeS features as the ADS-B UATs will
be
the preferred new technology path for data link.


Isn't the USA going to implement ADS-B using the 1090MHz Extended
Squitter - such as can be done with a GTX330?


The capstone project in Alaska implemented it with UATs and I'm pretty sure
that's the way it's currently being implemented on the east coast working
its way west. As far as extended squitter goes, I know at one time that was
the plan for the airlines because they had already made a large capital
investment in it. I'm not really sure what progress has been made on that
front.


AIUI, most of the rest of the world (those bits that are planning
ADS-B) are looking to do it that way.


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Old September 8th 08, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Sam,


Not in the U.S.



Source? A source that shows a Garmin GTX330 does not transmit flight ID
data in the US would suffice.

I suspect it transmits some form of the Mode S message, but no one is
listening in the U.S.

My friend's Falcon 900 transmits all the Mode S stuff presently required
by the most stringent requirements in your part of the world.
Eventually, it can transmit heading, IAS, and other types of snitch
data. I don't believe the OEM turns on that stuff in his Falcon 900
until the storm troopers order it turned on.
 




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